“How could an eternal God with no beginning 

ever come into existence in the first place 

and still be eternal with no beginning?”  

(i.e. “Where did God come from?”)

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PART I Summary:  Since God could never have created time, then God must be Living Time.  No other possibility exists.

 

(For those of you who continue to believe that God could still create time because "God transcends time" or "God is outside of time", please read Premise 9 before you beginning reading Premise 1 below.)

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Premise 1—Science has proved that extreme gravity can actually slow down time itself.  Therefore, time itself must be more than just perception, but must be an actual thing that exists in the real world that gravity can "grab hold of" (so to speak) in order for gravity to slow it down.  

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Premise 2—It is impossible for an actual thing to exist and not exist at the same time without violating the Law of Non-Contradiction.  Therefore, since time itself is an actual thing that exists and that can be slowed down by gravity, then it is impossible for the thing that is time itself to exist and not exist at the same moment.

 

Premise 3—This creates a problem however, because the process of creating time actually requires time to exist (during the creation of time) and not exist at that same moment (in order for time to still need to be created). Thus, the actual process of God creating time would still require time itself to exist and not exist at the very same moment, a logical impossibility that violates the law of Non-Contradiction. 
 

Conclusion 1—Since it is impossible for time to exist and not exist at the same moment, then the scenario in Premise 3 could never happen and so God could never have created time itself.  This is the first reason why God could never have created time.

 

Premise 4—In addition, for God to create time, a first moment in time must already exist during which God recognizes the need to create time, a second moment in time must already exist during which God designs a plan to create time, and a third moment in time must already exist during which God implements his plan to create time.

 

Conclusion 2—Without the previous existence of time, God would literally “never have the time” to recognize his need to create time, design a plan to create time and then implement his plan to create time.  Thus, God himself would be “frozen in time” (so to speak) and would not be able to create anything, do anything or even think anything, because even an instantaneous creation still requires a moment in time to exist during the instant of the creation as well as before the instant of creation when the newly created thing did not yet exist.  This is the second reason why God could never have created time.

 

Premise 5—Third, if God existed before time existed (in order for God to create time in the first place), then either God was eternal before he created time or God was not eternal before he created time.  If God was eternal before he created time, then no matter when God created time, a truly eternal God would have already lived an eternity of "years" prior to that moment, otherwise he wouldn’t be eternal.

 

Conclusion 3—But it is impossible for God to be eternal and to be living for millions of "years" before God created time, because in order for millions of "years" to pass, time would have to already exist.  Therefore, an eternal God could never have existed before time existed in order for God to create time in the first place.  This is the first part of the third reason why God could never have created time.

 

Premise 6—But in addition, if God was anything less than eternal before God created time itself, then God himself would need to have a beginning. 

 

Premise 7—If God himself had a beginning, and if there was nothing already existing from which God could have emerged, then God would have to create himself.

 

Premise 8—God could never have created himself without violating the Law of Non-Contradiction, because that would require God himself to exist and not exist at the same time. God would have to exist (in order to do the creating) and not exist (in order for God to still need to be created).  But it is logically impossible even for an almighty God to exist and not exist at the same time.

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Conclusion 4—Since God could never have created himself without violating the Law of Non-Contradiction, then a non-eternal God could never have existed before time existed in order for God to create time in the first place. This is the second part of the third reason why God could never have created time.

 

Conclusion 5—Summarizing, since it is impossible for the thing that is time itself to exist and not exist at the same time in order for God to create time in the first place, then God could never have created time for the following three reasons.  First, in order for God to create time, God would have to already exist for at least a short time before he attempted to create time precisely during a later time when time did not exist (Premise 3 and Conclusion 1).  This first reason by itself makes it impossible for God to have created time.  Second, without the previous existence of time, God would literally “never have the time” to recognize his need to create time, design a plan to create time or implement his plan to create time at a later time when time does not exist (Premise 4 and Conclusion 2).  In other words, time must already exist in order for God to literally have the time to create time.  This second reason by itself makes it impossible for God to have created time. Third, since it is impossible for either an eternal God or a non-eternal God to even exist before the existence of time (Conclusions 3 & 4), then it is also impossible God to have ever created time in the first place. This third reason by itself makes it impossible for God to have created time.  For these three reasons, it is totally impossible for God to have created time itself from with any timeless realm, timeless dimension or under any timeless circumstances whatsoever. 

 

Premise 9—At this point, for those opposing debaters who still claim that God could have created time because “God transcends time” or “God is outside of time” it should be self-evident that no imaginary “transcendence” in any timeless realm, universe or dimension can remove the requirement for our eternal God to already exist (in that timeless realm, universe, or dimension) for at least a short time before he attempts to design a plan to create time and then implement a plan create time precisely during a moment when time does not yet exist—a triple paradox requiring time itself to exist and not exist at the same time, thereby violating the Law of Non-Contradiction in any timeless realm, universe or dimension or in any circumstance whatsoever.  Accordingly, there is no way for God to “transcend time” in order for God to ever create time from within an initially timeless realm under any imaginary circumstances whatsoever.

 

Conclusion 6—Since time is a "thing" that exists, and since God could never have created time, then time must have always existed. Thus, time itself is Uncaused, Uncreated, and Naturally eternal with No Beginning. 

 

Conclusion 7—But in addition, since God could never have even existed before time existed (Conclusions 3 & 4), then God cannot possibly be older than eternal time and so eternal time must be older than God. [The only other alternative (that both God and time are two “equally eternal” but entirely SEPARATE entities) would still require God to initially exist (and therefore eternally exist) within a realm entirely separate from time itself (a timeless realm) thus rendering God to be eternally powerless and "frozen in time" (so to speak).]

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Premise 10—By definition, there can only be one Uncaused First Cause of absolutely everything.  Also by definition, only the Uncaused First Cause of everything never had a beginning.  Conversely, everything other than the Uncaused First Cause must be an effect of the Uncaused First Cause and must therefore have a beginning.

 

Conclusion 8—Since God could never have created time under any circumstances, then God cannot possibly be the Uncaused First Cause of absolutely everything.

 

Conclusion 9—Since God cannot possibly be the Uncaused First Cause of absolutely everything (because God could never have created time itself), then by definition, God must be an effect of the Uncaused First Cause and therefore God himself must have a beginning.

 

Conclusion 10—If God had a beginning, then it is impossible for God to be as old as eternal time. For this reason (in addition to the reason given in Conclusion 7), God must have come into existence after time itself already existed, which means that time itself must have pre-existed God. 

 

Conclusion 11—Since God had to come into existence after time already existed (Conclusions 7 & 10), and since God could never have created himself (Premise 8), then by default, God must have come into existence by emerging from something else that is Uncaused, naturally eternal, that pre-existed God, and that God himself could never have created—time itself—which means that God must have come from time and so God must be Living Time, or more precisely, four-dimensional Living Spacetime. Therefore, it is not God but is the energy of time itself that is the one true Uncaused First Cause.  No other possibility exists.  (See Premise 18 below and Conclusion 25 below concerning evidence that time itself has energy.)  Once we recognize that time is an actual thing that God could never have created, the only possible conclusion is that the energy of eternal time is the one true Uncaused First Cause and that God himself is four-dimensional Living Spacetime. 

 

Conclusion 12—However, the only way that God’s life force could be composed of four-dimensional Living Spacetime would be if an eternity ago, inanimate spacetime itself somehow became alive. 

 

Conclusion 13—Mankind should have recognized this self-evident truth centuries ago:

     “Only a non-living entity (like time itself) that is 

naturally eternal with no beginning that transitions 

into being alive can explain the origin of a living

God who is likewise naturally eternal with no beginning.”

 

Conclusion 14—Since eternal time has always existed in three parts—the inanimate past, present and future (relative to any given point in time, of course)—the only possible form of life that could ever arise from time itself must by necessity also exist in those same three parts, and therefore become the Living Present (i.e. the first part of time itself that became alive), the Living Past and the Living Future—a Trinity of living beings existing within one body of eternal time. 

 

Conclusion 15—Since by definition, the first part of time itself that becomes alive, conscious and self-aware would naturally be considered the relative “present” (and therefore become the Living Present—Jehovah/Jesus), then as this “aliveness” travels forwards and backwards in time like a wave on the ocean, spreading from the “present” into the eternal past and into the eternal future, then the rest of eternal time would naturally divided into (and would therefore naturally become) the Living Past and the Living Future respectively (i.e. the Father and the Holy Spirit).  Accordingly, since time itself (the past, present and future) is naturally eternal with no beginning, then when eternal time transitions from being inanimate into being alive, the resulting newly alive being would likewise be naturally eternal with no beginning, because the living being that is newly alive is, in fact, eternal time itself with no beginning—and therefore would naturally become the Living Past, the Living Present and the Living Future—an inseparable Trinity without beginning and without end.

 

Conclusion 16—Mankind should have recognized this self-evident truth centuries ago:

   “Only a non-living entity composed of three inseparable parts (like time itself) that is naturally eternal with no 

beginning that transitions into being alive (starting from 

the relative “present”) can explain the origin of a living

Trinity of three inseparable beings who are likewise

naturally eternal with no beginning.”

 

PART II Summary:  Jesus actually claimed to be Living Time when he said, "I AM the BEGINNING and the END"—the Living Past and the Living Future.

 

Premise 11—According to Conclusions 1 through 5 above, God could never have created time, nor could God have even existed before time.  Therefore, Christ would never say, “I created the Beginning…” nor would he say, “I existed before the Beginning…” 

 

Conclusion 17—However, according to Conclusion 11 above, God is actually Living Time.  And as Living Time, it makes perfect sense for Christ to say,

“I AM the Beginning…”  (Revelation 22:13),

a statement that strongly suggests,

“I AM [literally] the Beginning and the End"—the 

Living Past and the Living Future.  This is who and 

what I actually AM and this is who and what the Trinity 

actually is—The Living Past, the Living Present and 

the Living Future. And since time itself is naturally 

eternal with no beginning, then I am likewise naturally 

eternal with no beginning.

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Thus, both logic and the Bible confirm (at least to me) that somehow, an eternity ago, inanimate three-part spacetime itself (the past, present and the future) did indeed become alive as three living beings (the Living Past, the Living Present and the Living Future). 

 

Conclusion 18—I am also convinced that in John 8:58, when Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I AM” (rather than saying, “Before Abraham was, I WAS”) that Jesus was not only identifying himself with Jehovah—the great I AM in Exodus 3:14, but Jesus was also saying that God is still alive in the past.  This means God’s nature and the nature of time itself are intertwined in such a way that the past still exists and is accessible to God, because God himself is Living Time, just as Jesus claims when he says, “I AM [literally] the Beginning and the End.” (Revelation 22:13)

 

Conclusion 19—And if Jesus’ definition of the first “I AM” in God’s name (i.e. “I AM who I AM” in Exodus 3:14) refers to Jehovah being still alive in the past, then the second “I AM” in his name must likewise refer to Jehovah being already alive in the future.  This is the third verse that could indeed mean that God’s nature and the nature of time itself are intertwined in such a way that the past still exists and is accessible to God, because God himself is Living Time.  So, rather than simply mean, “I AM eternal”, God’s name in Exodus 3:14 might actually mean,

“I AM who I AM—Still alive in the past and 

Already alive in the future”,

because

“I AM [literally] the Living Past and the Living Future.  

That is who and what I actually AM.”

 

Because of the above reasoning, I am convinced that these three verses should be interpreted as follows:

“I AM [literally] the Beginning (the Living Past) 

and the End (the Living Future)” (Revelation 22:13)

 

“Before Abraham was, I AM—the Living Past” (John 8:58)

 

“I AM who I AM—the Living Past and the Living Future” 

(Exodus 3:14).

 

And since Jehovah was the person of the Trinity who was speaking to Moses in the present in Exodus 3:14, and since Jesus was the person of the Trinity who was speaking to the Apostle John in the present in Revelation 22:13, then Jehovah/Jesus would be the Living Present.  This would mean that the Trinity is the Living Past (the Father), the Living Present (Jehovah/Jesus) and the Living Future (the Holy Spirit)—three living beings existing within one body of eternal spacetime.  This is the only possible origin of the Trinity that would make these three beings to become naturally inseparable and still be eternal with no beginning—because time itself is naturally eternal with no beginning.  If you disagree, then please give me a better explanation for the origin of the Trinity, other than simply saying, "The Trinity always existed."

 

(Consider this: if Siamese Triplets were ever to survive, this would be three living beings existing within one human body. Likewise, the Trinity are three living beings existing within one body of eternal spacetime.  And just like the Siamese Triplets can never separate themselves from each other, the Trinity can never separate themselves from each other either. Additionally, just like you can never mechanically separate the past from the present, or separate the present from the future without destroying the nature of time itself, likewise you can never separate the Living Past from the Living Present, or separate the Living Present from the Living Future without destroying the Trinity.  As I said, this is the only possible origin of the Trinity that would make these three beings to become naturally inseparable and still be eternal with no beginning—because time itself is naturally eternal with no beginning.

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This ends the major portion of the syllogism.  Now before you reject my conclusion—that God is four-dimensional Living Spacetime—simply because you cannot imagine any way that time itself could ever become alive, please read Essay 2. 

 

Essay 2 describes a simple step-by-step process by which the infinite energy of time would inevitably create a complex structure made out of pure space—a structure that would ultimately become God’s “body” and “brain”—and because this structure would be naturally powered by the infinite energy of time itself, it would inevitably become a living, conscious, all-knowing, all-powerful God who is everywhere.  

 

Essay 3 then describes the process by which this initially indifferent God would inevitably become an all-loving God who would create mankind in the likeness of his own chosen image and who would then come to earth in the form of a man a die in our place so we could have eternal life.

 

So, as you read the remaining portion of the syllogism, please trust me for a moment that time can indeed become alive as Living Spacetime and that this is the only possible mechanism that can explain the origin of an eternal God with no beginning who would then inevitably become the all-loving God of the Bible.

 

In the remaining minor portion of the syllogism (Parts III through IX), several overlapping points are deliberately repeated in order to demonstrate how approaching this issue from multiple angles inevitably leads to the same answer—that God is four-dimensional Living Spacetime.

 

PART III Summary:  If God indeed had a beginning, then what is the only possible origin of an eternal God with no beginning?

 

Premise 12—The simplest origin for a living entity who is eternal with no beginning would be if the living entity transitioned from the one and only pre-existing non-living entity that was already eternal with no beginning—eternal time itself.

 

Conclusion 20—In this case, the simplest origin is most likely the only possible origin as well. In fact, no other alternatives even exist.  

Only a non-living entity that is naturally eternal 

with no beginning that transitions into being alive 

can explain the origin of a living entity that is 

likewise naturally eternal with no beginning. 

Therefore, God must be Living Time, 

regardless of how impossible this sounds.

 

(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate origin for a living God who is naturally eternal with no beginning, other than coming from eternal time itself.  I predict that most of you who disagree will retreat into some traditional Christian defense that requires God to create time itself, an argument that, according to Conclusion 5, is impossible to defend.  So, good luck with that.)

 

PART IV Summary:  If the Trinity indeed had a beginning, then what is the only possible origin of a life form composed of a naturally inseparable eternal living Trinity with no beginning?

 

Premise 13—The simplest origin for an eternal, inseparable, living Trinity would be if it transitioned from a pre-existing eternal, inseparable non-living trinity—eternal time (the inanimate past, present and future).

 

Conclusion 21—In this case, the simplest origin is most likely the only possible origin as well.  In fact, no other alternatives even exist.  

Only a naturally eternal, inseparable, non-living trinity 

with no beginning that transitions into being alive can 

explain the origin of a naturally eternal, inseparable, 

living Trinity with no beginning.  This conclusion fits 

perfectly with Christ saying, “I AM [literally] the Beginning 

and the End (the Living Past and the Living Future).” (Revelation 22:13) Therefore, the Trinity must be 

Living Time, regardless of how impossible this sounds.

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(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate origin for a naturally eternal, inseparable, living Trinity with no beginning, other than coming from eternal time itself.  Again, I predict that most of those who disagree will retreat into some traditional Christian defense that requires God to create time itself, an argument that, according to Conclusion 5, is impossible to defend.  So, good luck with that.)

 

PART V Summary:  If God had a beginning, then what is the only possible origin of a life form that would be naturally eternal, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent?

 

Premise 14—The Bible tells us God is eternal, omnipresent (everywhere), omniscient (all-knowing) and omnipotent (all-powerful). If it can be proven that a universe-sized entity composed of four-dimensional Living Spacetime would be naturally eternal, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent, then this would be perfectly consistent with the idea that the eternal life force of God himself could indeed be composed of four-dimensional Living Spacetime.

 

Premise 15—The eternality of God.  If time itself ever became a living entity, then since inanimate time itself is naturally eternal with no beginning, then when inanimate time transitions from being inanimate into being alive throughout all eternity past, present and future, the resulting living entity would likewise be naturally eternal with no beginning.

 

Conclusion 22—Any universe-sized living entity composed of Living Time would be naturally eternal with no beginning at all.  As I said in Conclusion 13,

“Only a non-living entity (like time itself) that is 

naturally eternal with no beginning that transitions into 

being alive can explain the origin of a living God who is likewise naturally eternal with no beginning.”

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(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate origin for a naturally eternal God with no beginning, other than coming from time itself.  Good luck with that.)

 

Premise 16—The Omnipresence of God (i.e. God is everywhere).  Since spacetime underlies the structure of the entire universe, then if spacetime itself ever became a living entity, that living entity would naturally be everywhere.

 

Conclusion 23—The only possible origin for a God who is naturally everywhere would be if that God came from something else that was already everywhere to begin with—spacetime itself.  In other words,

“Only a non-living entity that is naturally everywhere 

to begin with that transitions into being alive can explain 

the origin of a living God who is naturally everywhere.” 

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(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate origin for a naturally omnipresent God, other than coming from spacetime itself.  Good luck with that.)

 

Premise 17—The Omniscience of God (i.e. God is all-knowing). Since spacetime underlies the structure of the entire universe, then if spacetime itself ever became a living entity, that living entity would not only be alive everywhere in the present but would naturally be alive throughout every moment of all eternity past and already alive throughout every moment of all future eternity as well.  (Remember, in John 8:58, Jesus said, “Before Abraham was, I AM”, as if to say, “I AM still alive in the past and already alive in the future.”) Naturally, that entity would continually experience every single moment throughout all eternity past, present and future as if all these separate moments were continually happening to him in the present.

 

Conclusion 24—So if four-dimensional spacetime itself ever became alive as God, and if God could then continually experience every single moment throughout all past eternity and every single moment throughout all future eternity as if it were all continually happening to him in the present, then God would be naturally omniscient simply by virtue of being Living Time itself. I am convinced that

“Only a non-living entity that has continual access 

to everything that has ever happened in the past 

and that has already happened in the future that 

transitions into being alive can explain the origin of a 

living God who is naturally omniscient (all-knowing).”

 

In fact, I conclude that the only possible origin for a God who is naturally omniscient would be if God were Living Time—the Living Past, the Living Present and the Living Future. 

 

(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate origin for a naturally omniscient God, other than coming from eternal time itself.  Good luck with that.)

 

Premise 18—The Omnipotence of God (i.e. God is all-powerful).  Since spacetime underlies the structure of the entire universe, then if spacetime itself ever became a living entity, that living entity would naturally inherit all the energy of eternal time.  But does time have energy at all?  Well, gravity can slow down the velocity in space of large objects made of energy (like a giant planet, a moon or a comet) and can even bend the pathway in space of tiny objects made of energy (like photons in a beam of light).  In other words, gravity effects things made from energy.  But gravity can also slow down time itself and this is supposedly what causes time dilation.

 

Conclusion 25—Since gravity slows down things made of energy and since gravity can also slow down time itself, what property must time itself have such that gravity can slow it down?  Energy of course!  The inescapable conclusion (at least for me) is that the time-part of spacetime has a miniscule amount of energy within it at each point of space in order for gravity to slow down time at that particular point of space.  And this miniscule amount of energy at each point of space, when multiplied by all the points of space in the entire universe, and then multiplied by all the moments in time—past, present and future—totals to an infinite amount of energy, all of which God would inherit the moment time itself became alive as Living Time. I am convinced that,

“Only a non-living entity that has infinite energy to

begin with (like eternal time itself) that transitions into

being alive can explain the origin of a living God who

is naturally omnipotent (all-powerful).”  

 

If this is true, then the only possible origin for a God who is naturally omnipotent would be if God were Living Time. 

 

(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate origin for a naturally eternal, omnipotent God with no beginning, other than coming from eternal time itself.  Good luck with that.)  By the way, since time has no beginning, then the energy that powers time can have no beginning. Consequently, since time itself is naturally eternal, uncreated and Uncaused, then by default, the energy of time that powers time itself must also be naturally eternal, Uncreated and Uncaused.  No other alternatives exist. The only other imaginary alternative would require God to create the energy that powers time.  But since God cannot create time itself, then God certainly could never have created the energy that powers time.  As I said, no other alternatives exist.

 

Premise 19—Since any universe-sized entity composed of Living Spacetime should naturally be able to manipulate time itself, then this same living entity should also be able to create energy out of nothing at all.  By simply transferring a single photon-equivalent of the energy of time from the framework of spacetime into the universe itself and then creating trillions of potential futures for that same borrowed photon of energy, trillions of photon reproductions (i.e. literal “photocopies”) of that same photon of energy automatically appear—one new real photon for each one of the trillions of new alternate futures God created for the borrowed photon.  If God then transfers the single borrowed photon-equivalent back into the energy of time from whence it came, and then recombines all the alternate photon-futures into one future, then God is left with a trillion (minus 1) brand new photons of energy that did not previously exist in our universe a moment earlier, without ever having to personally create any new energy at all!  All God has to do is manipulate time into trillions of alternate futures and trillions of brand new energy photons will automatically appear as simple reproductions (i.e. literal “photocopies”) of the original single borrowed photon-equivalent.  In fact, by manipulating time, any universe-sized entity composed of Living Spacetime could instantly accomplish this same process of mass reproduction with all forms of energy, from subatomic particles to entire galaxies, and thereby make a brand-new galaxy suddenly appear in the past, in the present or in the future, at any location in the entire universe.

 

Conclusion 26—Since spacetime underlies the structure of the entire universe, then if the spacetime itself ever became a living entity, that living entity would not only inherit the infinite energy of eternal time itself, but by the process of “photocopying” that entity would become naturally omnipotent (all-powerful) as well.  As I said,

Only a non-living entity that has infinite energy 

to begin (like eternal time itself) that transitions 

into being alive can explain the origin of a living 

God who is naturally omnipotent (all-powerful). 

 

Therefore, it is highly likely that God is indeed, Living Spacetime itself.

 

Conclusion 27—Accordingly, simply by virtue of being Living Time—the Living Past, the Living Present and the Living Future—God would be a naturally eternal, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent living Trinity without any beginning.  I am convinced that this line of reasoning confirms the idea that God is Living time. 

 

(If you disagree, then please describe any reasonable alternate physical composition for any entity that would be a naturally eternal, omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent, living Trinity with no beginning, other than coming from eternal time itself.  Good luck with that.)

 

PART VI Summary:  If God had a beginning, then what is the only possible origin of a life form that could naturally create and enforce the laws of physics on a universal scale as well as temporarily suspend these same laws of physics at a particular location in order to create local miracles?

 

Premise 20—Since the underlying structure of the universe is spacetime, and since all laws of physics must act within a framework of spacetime, then a universe-sized eternal entity composed of Living Spacetime might naturally have the capacity to create and to enforce all the laws of physics on a universal scale.  Actually, no alternative anatomic structures exist for any entity that would have this natural capability to create and to enforce the laws of physics on a universal scale and also be able to temporarily suspend these same laws of physics at a particular location to create local miracles.

 

Conclusion 28—The only possible composition of an entity (a God) that could actually create the laws of physics and uniformly enforce these laws throughout the entire universe would be if that living entity was literally composed of the actual fabric of the universe—spacetime itself.  Therefore, in order to create and to enforce the laws of physics throughout the entire universe and also be able to temporarily suspend the laws of physics at a particular location to create miracles, God must be Living Spacetime itself. 

 

(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate physical composition of any entity that would naturally have this power who would not be composed of Living Spacetime.)

 

PART VII Summary: If God indeed had a beginning, then since God could never have created himself, by default God’s structure and life force must be composed of something that pre-existed God himself. That being said, if God indeed had a beginning, what is the only possible thing that could have pre-existed God from which God’s structure and life force could be composed?

 

Premise 21—Since God could never have created himself, and since God could never have created any of his own structural parts that would allow God to exist in the first place (much less become alive and conscious) then by default, the life force of God and the physical structure of God must instead be composed of something that pre-existed God which obviously, God himself could never have created.

 

Conclusion 29—Since God could never have created time itself, and since the physical structure of God can only be composed of something that pre-existed God that God himself could never create, then by default, God must be composed of Living Time, specifically Living Spacetime. 

 

(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate physical composition of an eternal God with no beginning who could neither have created time, nor created himself nor even created any of the physical “parts” that would need to come together to compose his “body” and “brain” in order for God to become alive and conscious to begin with.)

 

PART VIII Summary:  If God had a beginning, then what is the only possible origin and structure of a God who could naturally create energy out of nothing?

 

Premise 22—If time indeed has energy, and if infinite time has infinite energy (see Conclusion 25 above), then any living universe-sized entity who has ready access to the infinite energy of time and also has the capacity to transform portions of the energy of time into the normal type of energy we see in our universe, would naturally appear to be able to create energy and matter out of nothing at all (see Premise 19).  An entity composed of four-dimensional living spacetime would naturally have this ability and any entity not composed of four-dimensional living spacetime would not have this natural ability.

 

Conclusion 30—The only possible composition of an entity that could appear to naturally create energy out of nothing would be an entity composed of four-dimensional living Spacetime. 

 

(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate physical composition of any entity that would naturally have this power who would not be composed of Living Spacetime.)

 

PART IX Summary: If God had a beginning, then what is the only possible origin and structure of a God who would automatically have ability to predestine people without effecting anyone’s free will?

 

Premise 23—If a living entity the size of the universe is composed of Living Spacetime, then the Living Future has already witnessed the lives and deaths of everyone who will ever live throughout all future eternity, and has already gathered all the information about each person’s love of Christ and obedient faithfulness to God throughout their entire lifetimes.  Then, as the information acquired by the Living Future spreads throughout the entirety of its being of Living Time, the Living Past acquires that same information, which naturally allows God as the Living Past to easily select who will be saved in the future, and make this “salvation selection” long before anyone is ever born.  The Living Past can then develop a plan in the past to tweak the lives of every saved person yet to be born in the future in order to influence them to be more “conformed to the image of Christ” without ever effecting their free will. Then, as the information concerning the “salvation selection” and the “life-tweaking plan” spreads throughout the entire being of Living Time, the Living Present responds by carrying out the plans made by the Living Past, plans that were originally created using information collected by the Living Future.  And because the Living Future (the Holy Spirit) collects the information, the Living Past (the Father) makes the “salvation selection” and designs the plan, and the Living Present (Jehovah/Jesus) implements the plan, the entire Trinity is ends up being equally involved in each person’s salvation and growth in Christ.  But because the salvation selections and the “life-tweaking plans” are all made in the distant past long before anyone was ever born, the process is naturally called predestination.  If this is indeed the mechanism by which predestination works, then any universe-sized entity composed of Living Spacetime would naturally have the ability to predestine a person without affecting his free will, whereas any entity not composed of Living Spacetime would not have this natural ability. 

 

Conclusion 31—The only possible composition of an entity that would naturally have the power to predestine people without effecting their free will would be if that entity were composed of Living Spacetime. 

 

(If you disagree, then please describe a reasonable alternate physical composition of any entity that would naturally have this ability who would not be composed of Living Spacetime.)

 

So here is a brief summary of the 9 ways to approach the original two questions:

“How could an eternal God with no beginning ever 

come into existence in the first place and still be eternal 

with no beginning?”   (i.e. “Where did God come from?”)

 

“How did the inseparable Trinity ever become 

an inseparable Trinity in the first place?”

 

1.  Since God could never have created time, then time must be naturally eternal.  And since God could never have existed before time (see Conclusion 5 in the syllogism above), then God had to come after time and therefore come from time.  Therefore, God must be Living Time and the Trinity must be the Living Past (the Father), the Living Present (Jehovah/Jesus) and the Living Future (the Holy Spirit).

2.  Jesus claimed to be Living Time when he said, “I AM the Beginning [the Living Past] and the End [the Living Future]”, as if to say, “That is who and what I actually AM.”  Jesus also said, “Before Abraham was, I AM”—the Living Past, meaning God is “still alive in the past” (i.e. the Living Past) and “already alive in the future” (i.e. the Living Future).  So, the name of God, “I AM who I AM” could very likely mean, “Still alive in the Past (i.e. the Living Past) and “Already alive in the Future (i.e. the Living Future)”. 

3.  The only possible origin for an eternal God with no beginning would be if that eternal God came from something else that pre-existed God that was already eternal with no beginning (i.e. time itself).  Therefore, God must be Living Time.

4.  The only possible origin for an inseparable, eternal, living Trinity with no beginning would be if it came from a previously existing inseparable, eternal, non-living trinity with no beginning (i.e. eternal time itself—the past, the present and the future).  Therefore, God must be Living Time.

5.  The only possible origin of a God who is naturally eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient would be if something else that pre-existed God already had some very similar properties and then it became alive.  Of course, since spacetime itself is naturally eternal (without any beginning), omnipresent (everywhere), “omnipotent” (having an infinite amount of intrinsic energy), and “omniscient” (having an accessible record in time of every occurrence throughout all eternity past, present and future), then if spacetime itself ever became alive, it would naturally become an eternal, omnipresent, omnipotent, omniscient living God with no beginning, as well as naturally become an eternal, inseparable living Trinity with no beginning.  Therefore, God must be Living Time.

6.  Since the laws of physics are totally dependent upon the properties of space-time (in fact, nothing can ever happen without space and time) then the only possible composition of an entity that could create the laws of physics and enforce these laws on a universal scale as well as temporarily suspend the laws of physics at a particular location in order to perform local miracles would be if that entity was composed of spacetime itself and was also the size of the universe. Therefore, God must be Living Time—specifically, Living Spacetime.

7.  Since the life force of God cannot possibly be composed of that which God himself could only create after God became alive, then by default, the only thing that would naturally pre-exist God from which the life force of God could be composed would be spacetime itself.  Therefore, God is Living Time, specifically, Living Spacetime.

8.  The only possible composition of an entity that would naturally have the power to create energy out of nothing would be if the bodily structure of that entity were literally composed of the infinite energy of spacetime itself. Therefore, God is Living Spacetime.

9.  The only possible composition of an entity that would naturally have the power to predestine a person in the past without effecting their free will in the present, would be if that entity were LIVING TIME, and therefore that entity could naturally witness the person’s entire future life and death, send that knowledge into the remote past to select who would be saved and design a plan to influence their future, and then send the planned destiny from the past into the present to implement the plan when he or she is born. Therefore, the only possible composition of an entity that would naturally have the power of predestination without effecting free will would be if this entity were composed of Living Time, specifically, Living Spacetime.

 

By the way, if God is indeed Living Spacetime, then all of mankind is actually living within the life force of God himself.  This is perfectly consistent with what Paul said in Acts 17:28,

“For in him we live and move and have our being. 

As some of your own poets have said, 

'We are his offspring.'

 

I find no way around the idea that,

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“Since gravity can slow down time itself, then time is

far more than simple perception or intuition and must

instead be a real thing that can be acted upon by the

laws of physics.  And since God could never have

created the real thing that is time without time itself

already being in existence, then time itself must be

Uncreated, Uncaused and naturally eternal without

any beginning.  Additionally, since God could never

have created time itself, then God could never have

been the Uncaused First Cause of absolutely everything. 

And since only the true Uncaused First Cause has no beginning at all, then God himself must have had a

beginning that by default, could only have come from

the energy of time itself—the one thing that God could

never have created which by definition, must have

pre-existed God himself. Accordingly, God himself must

be Living Time: The Living Past, the Living Present and

the Living Future—the inseparable Trinity that we love

and worship." 

 

As I said, 

Only a non-living entity (like time itself) that is 

naturally eternal with no beginning that transitions 

into being alive can explain the origin of a living God 

who is likewise naturally eternal with no beginning.

 

Likewise,
 

Only a naturally eternal, inseparable, non-living trinity 

with no beginning that transitions into being alive can

explain the origin of a naturally eternal, inseparable,

living Trinity with no beginning.
 

I am convinced Christ confirmed this idea when he said,

“I AM [literally] the Beginning and the End—

the Living Past and the Living Future.

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I hope this essay provides you with one possible answer for the origin of God and for the origin of the Trinity.  (Personally, I think this is the only possible answer.)  And remember, if you disagree and want to dismiss this idea, you must first provide an actual rebuttal (even if it’s just in your own mind) by identifying the particular premises or conclusions in the syllogism above (particularly in Parts I and II of the syllogism above) that you imagine are incorrect.  Otherwise, simply dismissing an idea without providing an actual rebuttal is not a refutation.  And as I said earlier, whenever you deliberately dismiss your opponent’s proposition without a rebuttal in order to come to a conclusion that avoids the influence by your opponent’s evidence, you are actually committing a logical fallacy, specifically a Fallacy of Exclusion—important evidence that would refute an argument is deliberately excluded from consideration.  In this case, it is the important evidence that completely refutes the traditional Christian belief (that God created time) that is deliberately excluded from consideration without any actual refutation—a classic Fallacy of Exclusion. And by definition, a logical fallacy is an instance of incorrect reasoning that creates an invalid form of argument.